oliverparsons wrote:Thanks guys. AN is my favorite test sup by far...bioforge didnt really do much for me. I think i'll go ahead and try AN+XFactor
You know, it really is a standout (Adaptogen N). Here's what strikes me though, even given all of its success (WELL over a decade, of being a top seller).
- Trib is almost universally dismissed nowadays as a test booster, given some flawed studies (didn't use an extract worth a damn, IMO). Yet, it has stood the test of time (repeat buys for QUALITY trib), since the late 1980's?
- The combination of furostanolic saponins from Tribulus and Ecdysterones/adaptogens from Suma and RCE is a slam dunk IMO. MASS was onto this as long ago as 1996. So was Rick Brunner/Atletika and more recently - Biotivia came to this conclusion with their BioForge V.3 formula. Meaning a test booster plus adaptogen imparts MUCH greater benefits than a test booster alone.
So why haven't other companies followed suit?
I don't like copycat companies and they DON'T get my money - but perhaps they'd entertain new/unique combinations and/or source genus for this duo?
- Adaptogen N is the only product in its category to leverage the incredible power of SLEEP. That's right, it's during sleep where your test/GH levels peak and recovery/repair and adaptation is at the forefront! It was a wise move then, to position this product for use prior to bed. That's what the "N" is for folks - Night time!
- The inclusion of reasonable (not excessive/shotgunned) amounts of Longjax and DHEA is quite telling. How so? Well, you need only PRECISE amounts of DHEA to act as starter material for testosterone. After Leutenizing Hormone is ramped up by the Trib, the body slants production of precursors (DHEA) toward testosterone - not estrogen. Important point for those taking standalone DHEA - there's no guarantee it's going to convert to test! AN's formula provides the "direction" for DHEA to preferentially convert to testosterone.
Longjax? If you study the proposed mechanisms of action - one is to free testosterone that's bound to Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG). You can be swimming in newfound test, but it isn't worth a damn if it isn't biologically active!
- Finally, the custom 25:1 Suma Extract. AskMass doesn't highlight this enough, IMO. Take a look at the various grades of Suma on the market. Absolute junk, most of it. This extract is exceptional, and I've long maintained that a QUALITY Suma is just a step behind full spectrum RCE for our desired adaptogen related effects within BP. In fact, for MANY years Suma was the
ONLY legit source of quality Ecdy on the market. This, prior to RCE being available in cost-effective amounts given extraction/sourcing limitations at the time.
Cookie made a great point in one thread (might have been this one): You can boost test higher, with things like ATD etc.. Does this necessarily translate into better/faster gains though? No, it doesn't. Now don't get me wrong: You can and will see higher test/free test levels with Adaptogen N. I'll back that up with not only my labs here, but others as well. See here!
DaGymWarrior
https://bodybuildingsupplements.com/ ... sc&start=0
In many (but not all) cases, the chase for bigger and bigger total testosterone, GH #'s (whatever), takes our eye off the ball. Adaptogen N takes the measured approach to OPTIMIZING test/free test and getting you to Gainsville...
