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the_buffer wrote:I don't know much about it, but most of the logs I've seen people have been reporting mediocre gains and bad sides, including liver problems.

Really?To my memory its the opposite but I could be wrong.

What we have here are small companies, flying under the radar making small batches of either banned or soon to be banned active hormones/pro-hormones and god knows what else in the bottle.

They're well aware the DEA has only so many resources, and can't hunt them all down. Many open up shop under a new name several months later, pump out new batches and make another killing.

Do you really want to send your hard earned money to these fine folks? I don't like telling people what to do, but look at track record. When you're in and out, dodging and weaving - those aren't good signs.

Liver failure? I suppose it's possible, especially with 17 alpha alkalyated/methylated androgens of great potency like Superdrol and like compounds.

You'll get your gains.... and maybe more than what you bargained for above and beyond that. I'm not lucky so I stay away from the casino. Perhaps you are, I don't judge..

My $0.02, but these guys are HURTING legit supplement companies that play by the rules. De-facto, they're giving Washington all the ammo they need to..... hurt you.

sorry for reviving this dead thread, but...

does anyone else get fairly severe skin pain when they use [homemade] transdermal DHEA? the first time I used it, it took several weeks for it to begin hurting; I haven't used it for months, started using it again a few nights ago, and with the third usage (today, this AM) my skin felt like it had had acid applied to it. anyone have a solution to this?

DHEA does not have a feedback loop...you cannot shut down your body's production by using it.

nigh70wl wrote:sorry for reviving this dead thread, but...

does anyone else get fairly severe skin pain when they use [homemade] transdermal DHEA? the first time I used it, it took several weeks for it to begin hurting; I haven't used it for months, started using it again a few nights ago, and with the third usage (today, this AM) my skin felt like it had had acid applied to it. anyone have a solution to this?

What penetration enhancer are you using? If there's DMSO in the mix, that's the likely culprit. If not, it's likely the alcohol base.

SUGGESTION: Add some baby lotion to your skin, at least an hour AFTER applying. Alcohol can and does dry out the skin. FWIW, D-limonene seems to remedy this a bit...

RobRegish wrote:
What penetration enhancer are you using? If there's DMSO in the mix, that's the likely culprit. If not, it's likely the alcohol base.

haha, amusingly enough, I had some of a bottle of Everclear sitting around, and that's what I used. I diluted it with some water and it took care of it. moisturizing definitely necessary, though.

I am pretty sure that DHEA will raise estrogen even if it is a result of keeping the t:e ratios normal. So if you are using it at some point you may have to control the estrogenic side effects

Hank! wrote:I am pretty sure that DHEA will raise estrogen even if it is a result of keeping the t:e ratios normal. So if you are using it at some point you may have to control the estrogenic side effects

Going through the liver yes, but transdermally applied to the shoulders/upper back area it preferentially gets converted into T...also gets absorbed directly by the cells...

Thanks Matter,

PA now has a trans dermal DHEA and Progesterone spray on his Prototype site. He mentions in his forums that some people may want to control Estrogen so I assumed that it would cause conversion.

Not that E is bad, I dont mind the wet gains, plus if E is to low libido goes in the shitter