Matter2003 Big Time Bulk getting ready to start...

dropthebeats · Post by **dropthebeats** » Mon May 07, 2012 8:37 pm

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for MI40?

tufluk · Post by **tufluk** » Tue May 08, 2012 4:11 pm

God that a lot of sups man.

I am taking a jarrow organic greens powder. Got 2 of them, so its a 60 day supply. Be very careful with green powders as a lot of them contain licorice root, which has a devastating effect on Testosterone. Devastating might be understating it...it completely can obliterate testosterone, even in small doses, so be sure to stay away from it in any form.

You may have just saved my ass there! I just ordered a greens supp, came on here to see how your doing and checked out your response. needless to say I cancelled the order straight away and got one without licorice root. thanks bro!

Cant wait to run it.

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:27 pm

tufluk wrote:God that a lot of sups man.

I am taking a jarrow organic greens powder. Got 2 of them, so its a 60 day supply. Be very careful with green powders as a lot of them contain licorice root, which has a devastating effect on Testosterone. Devastating might be understating it...it completely can obliterate testosterone, even in small doses, so be sure to stay away from it in any form.
You may have just saved my ass there! I just ordered a greens supp, came on here to see how your doing and checked out your response. needless to say I cancelled the order straight away and got one without licorice root. thanks bro!

Cant wait to run it.

Glad I could be of help...licorice basically increases the bodies ability to convert T into E...not something a male should want to happen, it is extremely irresponsible for these companies to put this in here...

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:34 pm

Primer Day 5-Famine Day 3(Monday)

Back/Delts/Biceps:

Set A:
Bent Over Barbell Row: 45 x 15/65 x 15 x 15 x 15
Seated Side Laterals: 5DB x 20 x 20 x 20 x 20
Seated DB Curl: 15DB x 15 x 15 x 15 x 15

Set B:
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown: 40 x 15 x 15 x 15 x 15
Machine Shoulder Press: 20 x 15 x 15 x 15 x 15
Machine Preacher Curl:30 x 15 x 15 x 15 x 15

Set C:
1 Arm DB Row: 20DB x 10 x 10 x 10
Bent Over Rear Delt Lateral Raise: 10DB x 12 x 12 x 12
2 Arm Cable Bicep Curls: 10 x 15 x 15 x 15

Set D:
Underhand Grip Seated Cable Row: 40 x 15 x 15
DB Front Raise: 10DB x 10 x 10
1 Arm DB Preacher Curl: 15DB x 12 x 12

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:38 pm

Primer Day 6-Famine Day 4

Have a cold, not feeling the greatest, but still plugging along

Chest/Triceps:

Set A:
Incline Barbell Bench Press: 45 x 12/65 x 12/75 x 12 x 12
Machine Pec Fly: 40 x 15 x 15 x 15 x 15
Machine Dip: 55Assist x 10/85 x 15 x 15 x 10

Set B:
Flat DB Fly: 15DB x 15 x 15 x 15 x 15
Flat Machine Press(HS): 60 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10
Reverse Grip Tri Pushdown: 20 x 15 x 15/30 x 15/30 x 8-20 x 7

Set C:
Close Grip Bench Press: 45 x 15 x 15 x 15
Overhand Grip Pressdown: 20 x 12 x 12 x 12
Overhead Tri Extension: 15 x 15 x 15 x 15

tufluk · Post by **tufluk** » Wed May 09, 2012 7:53 am

almost at the grow stage!

just a quick question for you to see how your doing things, in the work out manual he states not to eat carbs in the morning, even on morning workout days. but on the 3250cal diet, the breakfast is;

Meal #1
1.5 Cups Oats (measure raw)
8 Egg Whites
1 Egg
¼ Cup Blueberries

Are your eating oats/carbs in the morning?

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Wed May 09, 2012 9:48 am

tufluk wrote:almost at the grow stage!

just a quick question for you to see how your doing things, in the work out manual he states not to eat carbs in the morning, even on morning workout days. but on the 3250cal diet, the breakfast is;

Meal #1
1.5 Cups Oats (measure raw)
8 Egg Whites
1 Egg
¼ Cup Blueberries

Are your eating oats/carbs in the morning?

I am pretty sure not to since he specifically says not to eat carbs if you are working out in the morning(says protein+fats+veggies). To make sure you can post this on his facebook wall and he usually answers within a day

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:17 am

woke up today at 186.8 lbs, down a full 6 lbs from start of famine(192.

. Surprisingly not feeling wore down or anything, possibly because I am in better shape now, but also likely because these workouts haven't been as heavy as they were in the BP(these primer workouts are designed more to teach you how he wants the exercise and reps done), although they are very muscle fatiguing.

Last day of famine, have a Quad/Ham/Calves workout in about an hour because I have to work(boss on vacation AGAIN) in the afternoon...
might skip calves depending on what he has me doing, A because I don't need any calf work realistically and B because my achilles tendon was burning from those seated calf raises last time on the last set---just want to make sure no issues with that, although I think it was just getting fatigued as there has been no pain or problems with it really since a few days ago when it felt kinda tired...

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:44 pm

Day 5 of famine completed and looking forward to Synthagen and my 3,200 Cals a day starting tomorrow. Thursday, Friday and Saturday are all off days heading into my first workout on Sunday.

Macro breakdown are as follows(Cals=LBMx20)
Training Days: Protein/Carb/Fat 30/50/20(240g/400g/71g)
Non-Training Days: Protein/Carb/Fat 50/20/30(400g/160g/107g)

Starting Measurements:

Chest: 44 inches(Yikes!! I lost 6 inches off my chest)
Biceps: 14.25 inches(Yikes!! 2.75 inches off my arms)
Waist: 34 inches(Yeah! Lost 4.5 inches off my waist)
Hips: 38.5 inches(Got those wide, child bearing hips! Thanks Squats!)
Quads: 24.5 inches(lost 2 inches off quads)
Calves: 17 inches(umm...yeah

)
-you didn't REALLY think I was going to lose THOSE monsters did you??(PS:Please don't let my Dad see this---after 25+ years of not working out, he still sports 21 inch calves that are ripped to shreds)

-The only good thing is, I pretty much lost pure fat, as I started out at 206 and around 20% BF, which means I lost 19.2 pounds of fat and .4 lbs of muscle. Not bad for an endomorph in 10 weeks!

Weight: 186.8 lbs
Body Fat: 12%(showed up as 11.7%, but I think its probably closer to 12)
LBM: 164.4 lbs

I will update these numbers every Sunday before I hit the gym to chart progress.

mikej26 · Post by **mikej26** » Wed May 09, 2012 11:54 pm

Just for curiosity sake, how tall are you? I'm currently around the same weight and bf%. My measurements vary a tad from yours, but are pretty similar except my arms are a tad bigger, but your calves put mine to shame. I'm 6'0" 194lbs at 11.4%bf

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Thu May 10, 2012 1:59 pm

mikej26 wrote:Just for curiosity sake, how tall are you? I'm currently around the same weight and bf%. My measurements vary a tad from yours, but are pretty similar except my arms are a tad bigger, but your calves put mine to shame. I'm 6'0" 194lbs at 11.4%bf

I am 5' 8" with very broad shoulders

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Sat May 12, 2012 7:53 pm

Day 7 of the Primer(day 5 of famine)

Quads/Hams/Calves:

Set A:
Leg Extension: 40 x 12 x 12 x 12 x 12
Leg Press: 170 x 15 x 15 x 15 x 15
Seated Calf Raise: skipped due to issues last time
3 MIN REST

Set B:
Squat: 45 x 12/65 x 12/95 x 12/115 x 12
Standing Calf Raise: 175 x 8 x 8 x 8 x 8
Seated Leg Curl: 30 x 12 x 12 x 12 x 12

Set C:
Lying Leg Curl: 40 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10
Hack Squat: 45 x 10/65 x 10 x 10 x 10
Walking Lunge: BW x 15ea x 15ea

Workout wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it wasn't fun either...

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Sat May 12, 2012 7:57 pm

MI40 Off Day 1/Off Day 2/Off Day 3(Thurs/Fri/Sat):

Started eating my meal plan with 3200ish calories and taking Synthagen alnog with my full range of supps...

Off day meal plans:

Meal 1: Protein+Fats+Veggies (57P/36F)
Meal 2: Protein+Carbs(57P/54C)
Meal 3: Protein Carbs+Veggies(57P/54C)
Meal 4: Protein Shake(57P)
Meal 5: Protein Shake+Carbs+Veggies(57P/54C)
Meal 6: Protein+Fats+Veggies(57P/36F)
Before Bed: Protein Shake+Fats(57P/35F)

Ready to rip day 1 of MI40 tomorrow!!!

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Sun May 13, 2012 4:02 pm

MI40 Day 1...

Not even Synthagen could save me today...

*all exercises are done for 8 reps(except the last set, which is a NOS or 3 drop sets in a row). Each rep is 5 seconds long. 1 second positive, 4 second negative, no pause at either top or bottom to keep constant tension on the muscle. Rest periods are 40 seconds in between all exercises and sets.

BACK:
Straight Arm Pulldown: 55/55/55/55-40x8-30x8-20x8
Reverse Grip Pulldown: 55/85/100/120-100x5-85x5-70x8
Bent Barbell Row: 115/115/95/95-85x5-75x5-65x4
One-Arm DB Row: 30/35/35/35-30x5-25x5-20x5
Hyper Extensions(BW): BW/BW/BW/BW-BWx3-BWx3-BWx3
-not sure how to execute an NOS set, so I rested for about 10 seconds and then did as many as possible

HAMSTRINGS:
Lying Leg Curl in Hip Extension: 50/45x2(spasm)-35x3/25/25
Superset with:
Lying Leg Curl w/ Hip up: 50/35x6/25/25-20x5-15x5-10x5
Stiff Leg DL(with intention): 60/60/70/70-60x5-50x5-40x5

-hamstrings started spasming on second set, basically you are holding chest off pad and pushing pelvis into pad until glutes contract and doing the curls(in extension), then keeping the same weight and dropping down and doing the curls normally...felt so embarrassed to be spasming at that weight, but that shit is brutal, especially with that rep speed...

Back feels like its about to fall off and walking downstairs is pretty tough right now...tomorrow morning I got chest and biceps, and then 15 mins of HIIT cardio at night...